a project by lee lozano that i stumbled upon for a class has really gotten my attention. i was able to read lozano's journals, which were transcribed by ben kinmont (an artist/curator/rare book seller who has won my esteem), and am now hoping to re-examine and possibly re-instate her dialogue project. ben agrees this is something that i should look into. it is simple and elegant and i think a way of connecting to people on a very personal and yet social level. over the next few months, i will invite people to have dialogue with me at my house. below are a few exerts from lozano's project. she exchanged dialogue with some really amazing people of that time in new york and i'm hoping to do the same in san francisco presently.
DIALOGUE PIECE
(Started April 21, 69) OR VERBALL. CALL (OR WRITE/SPEAK TO) PEOPLE FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF INVITING THEM TO YR LOFT FOR A DIALOGUE. IN PROCESS FOR THE REST OF “LIFE”. [printed in the note-book’s margin] NOTE: DEFINITION OF “DIALOGUE” REMAINS OPEN. VERBALL GIVES SOME INDICATION.
May 23- Call Larry Weiner (as I promised at Cooper opening). Make date for visit Mon, May 26, 4 P.M.
May 24- Kaltenbach comes at last for our first “official” dialogue. We trade a lot of our art ideas & discuss doing a piece together when he returns from Cal. (He leaves on June 3 for teaching job).
May 24, 69 When I call Claire Copley to apologize for abrupt departure last night from La Monte’s I invite her & we make date for Wed, May 28, after 7 P.M.
25 Call Yvonne around 2 P.M., no answer. Again later (to be cor-rect) at 6:15. No answer.
25 Call David Diau, he’ll call very soon for a visit.
25 Call Alan Saret, he will come tonight at 9:00. Later: it was very sluggish dialogue but I learn more than can be expressed ver-bally from Alan (a lot abt his no-scene), and about this time & place in history. Also realize I have no floor-pad for stoned guests stretching.
26 Larry Weiner & I have a “fast-paced” dialogue. He seems to behave as though to let the other person talk is to let the other person win. The “element” missing from this dialogue which happened to be present in all the previous dialogues was love.
28 Claire Copley mostly talks during dialogue, is interested in learning, she said.
30 Dan Graham & I have important dialogue in that definite changes were immediately effected because of it.
June 2, 69 Call Poons, leave name & no. w/ A.S.
Call Brice, make date for June 3 (Tue), 8:30. Will Brice Marden bring his old lady I wonder?
3 No Brice doesn’t come with Helen & we discuss “the Revolu-tion”, Brice talking almost entirely abt shitty business practices in the art world, & shitty treatment of artists by each other.
4 Larry Stafford who is in bldg to visit Ray Siemanowski knocks on my door & we have spontaneous dialogue, much abt gallery & dealer pitfalls.
5 & 6 Alan Saret returns both these nights & we continue dialogue. More later re this.
6 Vogels visit, we have long “dialogue.”
7 Serra comes over a little high on beer & no food. Just into a dialogue with him ( we’ve been smoking Saret’s hash) when he gets an attack (too stoned), falls off chair to floor with a crash, has “convulsions” & passes out. later he feels sick, lies down on bed until Saret comes over.
9 Call more people for dialogue. From now on I won’t enter these calls in Piece but only dialogues per se, & calls when they are relevant.
10 Meet with Dick Anderson. We walk to 8th st. bkstores & return to his loft for rest of “dialogue”. He talks continuously.
June 16, 69 Gary Bower comes for dialogue at 3:00 P.M. & leaves at 9:00 P.M. It was engaging almost the whole time.
17 Gary Stevens talks abt his job at mental hosp. & other interest-ing subjects but I sense something (resistance, tension)? which keeps him at a distance. Perhaps he was just uncom-fortable?
18 Send following postcard to Walter De Maria: “The reason I called you twice to which you have not been gracious enough to reply was to invite you for a dialogue. Love, Lozano”. [Walter replies by letter before he leaves town for summer. July.]
23 Felix Roth comes for a “dialogue”, laying on me all the prob-lems of the middle class including operations.
24 Jake (neighbor, 2 loft bldgs east of mine) unexpectedly drops in thru fire escape door which I open in hot weather. We have dialogue including stock market info & drug info.
30 I receive a visit from Romy McDonald & her friend Margo who were given my name in England by Tim Head. Pass info.
July 9, 69 Jason Crum comes & is interesting but we do not have dia-logue.
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